"And by the way, I wanted to point out that Kindred is not science fiction. You'll note there's no science in it. It's a kind of grim fantasy"
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The line “you’ll note there’s no science in it” is both literal and strategic. Time travel in Kindred isn’t explained with equations, machines, or futurist plausibility. That absence isn’t a flaw; it’s the point. Butler doesn’t want the reader insulated by the usual genre contract, where the thrill is how a mechanism works. She wants the reader trapped in the mechanism that already exists: the historical machinery of slavery, coercion, kinship, and survival. Calling it “grim fantasy” flips expectations. The fantasy isn’t the portal through time; it’s the modern protagonist’s belief she can enter that world and remain intact, morally or physically.
There’s subtextual politics here, too: “science fiction” can be a compliment that doubles as a containment unit, a way to keep certain kinds of American horror at a safe imaginative distance. Butler strips away that distancing. Kindred is speculative as a technique, not a prediction. The book’s real engine is emotional and historical realism, using the impossible to force an encounter with what was, and what still echoes. The genre debate becomes a warning label: don’t come looking for gadgets; come prepared to be implicated.
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Butler, Octavia. "And by the way, I wanted to point out that Kindred is not science fiction. You'll note there's no science in it. It's a kind of grim fantasy." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-by-the-way-i-wanted-to-point-out-that-kindred-165582/.
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"And by the way, I wanted to point out that Kindred is not science fiction. You'll note there's no science in it. It's a kind of grim fantasy." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-by-the-way-i-wanted-to-point-out-that-kindred-165582/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.


