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Art & Creativity Quote by Fred Frith

"And so many of the kinds of labels you get stuck with don't really tell the story; Progressive, Art Rock, Noise Music, Downtown - it ends up being a struggle to stay out of debates that other people are having around you"

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Labels are supposed to help us find the music; Fred Frith is pointing out how quickly they become a substitute for hearing it. His list - Progressive, Art Rock, Noise Music, Downtown - reads like a map of late-20th-century scenes that were always half-aesthetic, half-tribal. Each tag carries a phantom argument about legitimacy: prog’s virtuosity versus excess, art rock’s gallery-adjacent cool, noise as either radical honesty or provocation-for-its-own-sake, “Downtown” as New York shorthand for a whole economy of taste. Frith’s complaint isn’t that categories exist; it’s that they arrive preloaded with other people’s anxieties and status games.

The key phrase is “don’t really tell the story.” He’s not defending some mystical purity of “the work itself.” He’s defending complexity: the lived mess of collaboration, influence, accident, and craft that gets flattened into a genre sticker. In practice, those stickers determine who books you, who funds you, who reviews you, which audience feels licensed to claim you. So “staying out of debates” isn’t aloofness; it’s survival. Once you’re drafted into a scene’s argument, your next record becomes an ideological vote rather than an artistic move.

Coming from a composer whose career crosses improvisation, experimental rock, and contemporary composition, the context matters: Frith is speaking from the borderlands, where the point is hybridity and the penalty is being misread. The quote is a refusal to let criticism’s filing system become the music’s plot.

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APA Style (7th ed.)
Frith, Fred. (2026, January 17). And so many of the kinds of labels you get stuck with don't really tell the story; Progressive, Art Rock, Noise Music, Downtown - it ends up being a struggle to stay out of debates that other people are having around you. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-so-many-of-the-kinds-of-labels-you-get-stuck-70776/

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Frith, Fred. "And so many of the kinds of labels you get stuck with don't really tell the story; Progressive, Art Rock, Noise Music, Downtown - it ends up being a struggle to stay out of debates that other people are having around you." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-so-many-of-the-kinds-of-labels-you-get-stuck-70776/.

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"And so many of the kinds of labels you get stuck with don't really tell the story; Progressive, Art Rock, Noise Music, Downtown - it ends up being a struggle to stay out of debates that other people are having around you." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-so-many-of-the-kinds-of-labels-you-get-stuck-70776/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.

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Fred Frith (born February 17, 1949) is a Composer from England.

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