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Creativity Quote by Buddy Rich

"And, well, of course, Count Basie, and I think all of the black bands of the late thirties and early forties, bands with real players. They had an influence on everybody, not just drummers"

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Buddy Rich isn’t name-dropping Count Basie to sound tasteful; he’s laying down a correction. The little hedges in his phrasing - "and, well of course" and "I think" - are less uncertainty than social navigation, a way to state an obvious truth in a music world that often refused to treat it as obvious: Black big bands weren’t a side current in swing; they were the engine.

"Bands with real players" carries a double edge. On the surface it’s a musician’s compliment, the highest currency in Rich’s blunt meritocracy: time, touch, discipline, the kind of ensemble precision that makes a rhythm section feel like one organism. Underneath, it’s a jab at the era’s sanitized mainstreaming of swing, where white bands were routinely given the biggest platforms, the cleanest recordings, the widest radio reach, and then celebrated as if they’d invented the sound. Rich is saying the lineage runs the other way.

The tightest move is the last clause: "not just drummers". Rich, the archetypal drummer’s drummer, refuses to let influence be reduced to chops. Basie’s band taught a whole grammar: how to leave space, how to make understatement swing harder than virtuosity, how a rhythm section can lead without shouting. In the late 30s and early 40s - peak big-band competition, segregated touring circuits, and a recording industry hungry for exportable cool - that grammar traveled everywhere, even when the credit didn’t. Rich is giving it back, in plain musician talk.

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Rich, Buddy. (2026, February 18). And, well, of course, Count Basie, and I think all of the black bands of the late thirties and early forties, bands with real players. They had an influence on everybody, not just drummers. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-well-of-course-count-basie-and-i-think-all-of-77203/

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Rich, Buddy. "And, well, of course, Count Basie, and I think all of the black bands of the late thirties and early forties, bands with real players. They had an influence on everybody, not just drummers." FixQuotes. February 18, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-well-of-course-count-basie-and-i-think-all-of-77203/.

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"And, well, of course, Count Basie, and I think all of the black bands of the late thirties and early forties, bands with real players. They had an influence on everybody, not just drummers." FixQuotes, 18 Feb. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/and-well-of-course-count-basie-and-i-think-all-of-77203/. Accessed 21 Feb. 2026.

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Buddy Rich (September 30, 1917 - April 2, 1987) was a Musician from USA.

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