"As things are, and as fundamentally they must always be, poetry is not a career, but a mug's game. No honest poet can ever feel quite sure of the permanent value of what he has written: He may have wasted his time and messed up his life for nothing"
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The subtext is self-indictment as much as advice. Eliot had bank-job years, nervous exhaustion, a disastrous marriage, and a complicated relationship to ambition and authority. When he says “No honest poet can ever feel quite sure,” he’s not praising humility; he’s describing an occupational hazard of seriousness. “Honest” is the tripwire: the moment you trust too fully in your own “permanent value,” you’ve slid from art into self-mythologizing. Yet if you can’t trust in permanence, what keeps you working? Duty, compulsion, maybe fear.
Context matters: modernism is built on the awareness that cultural guarantees have collapsed. Tradition is no longer an inheritance you can simply step into; it’s something you assemble, quote, fracture, and defend. Eliot’s bleakness functions as a purifying ritual, a way to strip out careerism and leave only the difficult, almost perverse motive that survives: the need to make something that might outlast you, despite having no proof it will. The sting of “for nothing” is the point; it’s the price of writing as if standards still exist.
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| Topic | Poetry |
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Eliot, T. S. (2026, January 15). As things are, and as fundamentally they must always be, poetry is not a career, but a mug's game. No honest poet can ever feel quite sure of the permanent value of what he has written: He may have wasted his time and messed up his life for nothing. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/as-things-are-and-as-fundamentally-they-must-22299/
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Eliot, T. S. "As things are, and as fundamentally they must always be, poetry is not a career, but a mug's game. No honest poet can ever feel quite sure of the permanent value of what he has written: He may have wasted his time and messed up his life for nothing." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/as-things-are-and-as-fundamentally-they-must-22299/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"As things are, and as fundamentally they must always be, poetry is not a career, but a mug's game. No honest poet can ever feel quite sure of the permanent value of what he has written: He may have wasted his time and messed up his life for nothing." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/as-things-are-and-as-fundamentally-they-must-22299/. Accessed 17 Feb. 2026.







