"As you know, Microsoft eventually kind of grabbed the gold ring out of Apple's hands, I guess"
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The hedges matter: “as you know,” “eventually,” “kind of,” “I guess.” That’s not uncertainty so much as cultural diplomacy. He’s speaking from within a famously mythologized origin story, where Apple is the visionary and Microsoft the opportunist. By cushioning the accusation, Hertzfeld avoids sounding bitter while still signaling allegiance to the Mac narrative: we had it first; they scaled it better.
The context is the GUI revolution: Apple’s early lead in user-friendly computing, Microsoft’s Windows push, and the messy overlap of inspiration, licensing, and imitation that defined 1980s tech. Hertzfeld’s line lands because it’s not technical history; it’s emotional history. The subtext is a warning to every inventor: the “ring” doesn’t go to the purest idea, but to the player who can turn it into the default.
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"As you know, Microsoft eventually kind of grabbed the gold ring out of Apple's hands, I guess." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/as-you-know-microsoft-eventually-kind-of-grabbed-39617/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.


