"But I think you have to - whatever the environment looks like, it does enter into people's art work one way or another; it's very remote or it isn't. It's remote in my work but it has to have a certain degree of ordinariness"
About this Quote
The key word is “remote.” Judd isn’t claiming neutrality; he’s describing a deliberate distance. In his work, environment enters indirectly: through materials, scale, industrial finish, the way an object occupies a room, the viewer’s movement around it. This is subtextual politics. By keeping the world “remote,” he avoids illustration and sentiment, while still admitting that choices about form are choices made inside an actual social and physical setting.
Then he adds “a certain degree of ordinariness,” which sounds like a shrug but functions like a manifesto. Ordinariness isn’t banality here; it’s a defense against the heroic, the expressive, the precious. It’s also a bet on the everyday as a legitimate aesthetic standard: plywood, anodized aluminum, repeated units, straightforward color. In the postwar American boom, that “ordinary” industrial language was the atmosphere people lived in. Judd’s intent is to make art that doesn’t float above that reality, and doesn’t pretend it can redeem it either - just clarifies it, with disciplined restraint.
Quote Details
| Topic | Art |
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| Source | Verified source: Oral history interview with Donald Judd (Donald Judd, 1965)
Evidence:
But I think you have to--whatever the environment looks like, it does enter into people's art work one way or another; it's very remote or it isn't. It's remote in my work but it has to have a certain degree of ordinariness. (Page 5). This quote appears in a primary-source interview: an oral history interview of Donald Judd conducted by Bruce Hooton on February 3, 1965, for the Archives of American Art. In the transcript PDF, the passage appears on page 5. The same section continues immediately after with: "I admire work that is exotic, such as Bontecou's and Samaras', but I suppose I work in a way within limits of ordinariness." Based on the available evidence, this 1965 oral-history interview is the earliest verifiable source located for the quotation. |
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Judd, Donald. (2026, March 12). But I think you have to - whatever the environment looks like, it does enter into people's art work one way or another; it's very remote or it isn't. It's remote in my work but it has to have a certain degree of ordinariness. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-i-think-you-have-to-whatever-the-135541/
Chicago Style
Judd, Donald. "But I think you have to - whatever the environment looks like, it does enter into people's art work one way or another; it's very remote or it isn't. It's remote in my work but it has to have a certain degree of ordinariness." FixQuotes. March 12, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-i-think-you-have-to-whatever-the-135541/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"But I think you have to - whatever the environment looks like, it does enter into people's art work one way or another; it's very remote or it isn't. It's remote in my work but it has to have a certain degree of ordinariness." FixQuotes, 12 Mar. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-i-think-you-have-to-whatever-the-135541/. Accessed 24 Mar. 2026.







