"But if cattle and horses, or lions, had hands, or were able to draw with their hands and do the work that men can do, horses would draw the forms of the gods like horses, and cattle like cattle, and they would make their bodies such as they each had themselves"
About this Quote
The intent is polemical. In a Greek world crowded with gods who drink, cheat, flirt, and feud, Xenophanes is calling out theology as cultural vanity. He uses a deliberately homely thought experiment - the barnyard as a mirror - to make a corrosive point feel obvious. If representation follows the limits and desires of the representer, then the Olympians are less revelation than projection. The joke lands because its reversible: once you can imagine horse-gods, human-gods stop feeling inevitable.
Subtext: religious imagery is political and tribal. People dont just imagine gods; they imagine gods who look like them, and by implication, gods who validate their norms and rule their social order. Xenophanes also sneaks in a critique of artistic authority: the same hands that carve statues can carve certainty. If craft can manufacture divinity, then divinity is not a fact but a product.
Context matters. This is early Greek philosophy shifting from mythic storytelling toward rational inquiry. Xenophanes isnt offering atheism so much as epistemic humility: before arguing about the gods, notice the fingerprints on the argument.
Quote Details
| Topic | Reason & Logic |
|---|---|
| Source | Unverified source: Stromata (Miscellanies), Book V (Xenophanes, 202)
Evidence: “But had the oxen or the lions hands, Or could with hands depict a work like men, Were beasts to draw the semblance of the gods, The horses would them like to horses sketch, To oxen, oxen, and their bodies make Of such a shape as to themselves belongs.” (Book 5 (exact chapter/section varies by ed... Other candidates (1) Is God Invisible? (Charles Taliaferro, Jil Evans, 2021) compilation92.2% ... But if cattle and horses or lions had hands, or were able to draw with their hands and do the work that men can d... |
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Xenophanes. (2026, February 21). But if cattle and horses, or lions, had hands, or were able to draw with their hands and do the work that men can do, horses would draw the forms of the gods like horses, and cattle like cattle, and they would make their bodies such as they each had themselves. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-if-cattle-and-horses-or-lions-had-hands-or-126975/
Chicago Style
Xenophanes. "But if cattle and horses, or lions, had hands, or were able to draw with their hands and do the work that men can do, horses would draw the forms of the gods like horses, and cattle like cattle, and they would make their bodies such as they each had themselves." FixQuotes. February 21, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-if-cattle-and-horses-or-lions-had-hands-or-126975/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"But if cattle and horses, or lions, had hands, or were able to draw with their hands and do the work that men can do, horses would draw the forms of the gods like horses, and cattle like cattle, and they would make their bodies such as they each had themselves." FixQuotes, 21 Feb. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-if-cattle-and-horses-or-lions-had-hands-or-126975/. Accessed 21 Feb. 2026.
