"But if nothing but soul, or in soul mind, is qualified to count, it is impossible for there to be time unless there is soul, but only that of which time is an attribute, i.e. if change can exist without soul"
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Aristotle is doing something sneakily radical here: he’s not asking what time is made of, but what kind of world has the right to call anything “time” at all. In the Physics, time isn’t a cosmic fluid sloshing along independent of us; it’s “number of motion” with respect to before and after. That “number” matters. Counting is not a property of rocks or rivers. Counting is an act. So if time requires numbering change, the unsettling implication follows: no soul (psyche), no time - not because nothing moves, but because nothing is being measured as moving.
The quote’s subtext is a pressure test on realism. Aristotle wants time to be objective enough to anchor natural philosophy, yet he’s honest about the human-shaped hinge in his definition. He tries to split the difference with a careful escape hatch: perhaps change can exist without soul, and time would still be an attribute of that change, even if no one is there to tally it. That “if” does a lot of work. It admits that his account risks making time hostage to perception while also refusing the easy Platonic move of treating time as an independent entity.
Contextually, this is Aristotle arguing against mythic cosmologies and against conceptual reification. Time isn’t a thing alongside things; it’s a relation that only becomes intelligible through a mind capable of marking “before” and “after.” The line lands because it makes metaphysics feel like a logistical problem: no counter, no count - and yet the universe keeps turning, daring you to say what, exactly, has been lost.
The quote’s subtext is a pressure test on realism. Aristotle wants time to be objective enough to anchor natural philosophy, yet he’s honest about the human-shaped hinge in his definition. He tries to split the difference with a careful escape hatch: perhaps change can exist without soul, and time would still be an attribute of that change, even if no one is there to tally it. That “if” does a lot of work. It admits that his account risks making time hostage to perception while also refusing the easy Platonic move of treating time as an independent entity.
Contextually, this is Aristotle arguing against mythic cosmologies and against conceptual reification. Time isn’t a thing alongside things; it’s a relation that only becomes intelligible through a mind capable of marking “before” and “after.” The line lands because it makes metaphysics feel like a logistical problem: no counter, no count - and yet the universe keeps turning, daring you to say what, exactly, has been lost.
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| Topic | Deep |
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| Source | Aristotle, Physics, Book IV (discussion of time and the soul/counting), chapters 10–14; Bekker 219b–223a (English public-domain translation available). |
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