"But, in fairness to them, too, the popular song per se is really a pretty shallow medium to perform in"
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The key word is “per se.” Torme isn’t saying popular music can’t be art; he’s carving out a narrower claim: the medium, as an industrial product, tends to reward immediacy over complexity. In the mid-century ecosystem he came up in - radio-friendly runtimes, label expectations, the churn of standards and singles - a song often had to land in under three minutes, hit a clean emotional target, and stay legible through casual listening. That’s not where nuance thrives. It’s where hooks, personas, and streamlined feelings win.
The subtext is a craftsman’s frustration, not an elitist dismissal. Torme, a jazz-leaning singer with arranger instincts, is naming the trade-off: pop’s power is its reach, but that reach is purchased by simplification. He’s also quietly defending performers criticized for not being “deep” - implying the container itself shapes what the audience will allow, and what the marketplace will tolerate.
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Torme, Mel. (2026, January 17). But, in fairness to them, too, the popular song per se is really a pretty shallow medium to perform in. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-in-fairness-to-them-too-the-popular-song-per-79996/
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Torme, Mel. "But, in fairness to them, too, the popular song per se is really a pretty shallow medium to perform in." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-in-fairness-to-them-too-the-popular-song-per-79996/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"But, in fairness to them, too, the popular song per se is really a pretty shallow medium to perform in." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/but-in-fairness-to-them-too-the-popular-song-per-79996/. Accessed 28 Mar. 2026.




