"But the relationship of morality and power is a very subtle one, because ultimately power without morality is no longer power"
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The first sentence, with its measured caution - "very subtle" - signals an educator's impatience with simplistic civics. Moral authority and coercive capacity can look identical in the short term: both get people to comply. The subtext is that compliance isn't the same as legitimacy, and legitimacy is what makes power durable. When morality collapses, the state (or leader, or institution) can still punish, but it loses the deeper social permission that turns force into governance.
"Ultimately" does a lot of work. Baldwin is pointing past the immediate spectacle of dominance toward the long game: history's slow audit. Power without morality becomes fear management, a regime of transaction and threat. It might win battles, but it hemorrhages allegiance, invites resistance, and hollow-outs its own narrative. That's why the phrase "no longer power" lands as a paradox. He isn't denying that immoral actors can control; he's arguing that control stripped of ethical claim is something lower-grade - violence, intimidation, occupation.
As an educator writing in an era when institutions were consolidating authority through empire, industrial capital, and social hierarchy, Baldwin is teaching a political literacy lesson: watch where a society locates its moral justifications. When those justifications rot, what's left isn't strength. It's exposure.
Quote Details
| Topic | Ethics & Morality |
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| Source | Verified source: A Dialogue (James Baldwin, 1973)
Evidence: But the relationship of morality and power is a very subtle one. Because ultimately power without morality is no longer power.. This line appears in the published transcript of a conversation between James Baldwin and Nikki Giovanni, issued as the book A Dialogue (1st ed., Philadelphia: J. B. Lippincott & Co., 1973). The underlying conversation was taped for the TV program "Soul" and first shown on WNET-TV in December 1971, but the earliest verifiable publication I can directly corroborate from primary-text evidence located online is the 1973 book transcript. Other candidates (1) Leadership for All the Mountains You Climb (Mark W. Altman M.I.S, 2008) compilation96.9% ... But the relationship of morality and power is a very subtle one. Because ultimately power without morality is no ... |
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