"By experience, we find out a short way by a long wandering"
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Ascham writes as a Tudor humanist, a schoolmaster’s schoolmaster, and the subtext feels pedagogical rather than mystical. “Experience” isn’t romantic wandering; it’s trial, repetition, and the humiliations that come with being wrong in public. The “long wandering” sounds like travel, but it’s really apprenticeship: years spent in the weeds of Latin, rhetoric, courtly behavior, and moral formation. In a period when England is reshaping itself through Reformation politics and a rapidly centralizing state, the ability to learn efficiently becomes a civic tool, not just a personal virtue. The educated administrator, diplomat, or preacher needs reliable methods, not lucky inspiration.
What makes the line work is its double address. It comforts the learner (your struggle isn’t wasted; it’s the route), and it warns the overconfident (you don’t get to skip the struggle). It also smuggles in a theory of knowledge that’s still recognizable: abstraction comes late. You earn the “short way” only after you’ve walked the long one enough times to see the pattern.
Quote Details
| Topic | Learning from Mistakes |
|---|---|
| Source | Verified source: The Scholemaster (Roger Ascham, 1570)
Evidence: We know by experience it selfe, that it is a meruelous paine, to finde oute but a short waie, by long wandering. (Book I, p. 215 in later lineated editions; page image lines 876-878 in Project Gutenberg transcription). This appears to be the primary source of the quotation. The commonly circulated modernized form, "By experience, we find out a short way by a long wandering," is a paraphrastic modernization of Ascham’s original Early Modern English wording, not the exact original text. The work was written between about 1563 and 1568 and published posthumously in 1570. In the Project Gutenberg transcription of the 1570 text, the passage appears in Book I around lines 876-878; the printed page number shown in that edition is 215. Authoritative bibliographic sources identify The Scholemaster as first published in 1570. ([gutenberg.org](https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/1844.html.images)) Other candidates (1) Dictionary of Quotations from Ancient and Modern, English... (Rev. James Wood, 1893) compilation95.0% ... By experience we find out a short way by a long wandering . Roger Ascham . By nature man hates change ; seldom wi... |
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