"Composers in the old days used to keep strictly to the base of the theme, as their real subject. Beethoven varies the melody, harmony and rhythms so beautifully"
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The key phrase is “base of the theme.” It’s architectural language, implying foundation, load-bearing structure, a place you can’t abandon without collapse. Brahms isn’t celebrating Beethoven for escaping the theme but for treating it as something elastic: the melody can be bent, harmony rerouted, rhythms re-engineered, yet the listener still senses the original DNA. That’s why “so beautifully” lands as more than praise; it’s a claim about legitimacy. Beethoven’s variations aren’t decorative flourishes. They’re arguments, proofs that transformation can be rigorous.
Context matters because Brahms lived in the long shadow of Beethoven, in a 19th-century culture obsessed with lineage and the anxiety of influence. He’s also speaking into the era’s “absolute music” debates: how much can you develop purely musical material before it becomes mere cleverness? Brahms’ subtext is defensive and aspirational at once: the highest modern art honors its premises, then dares to remake them.
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Brahms, Johannes. (2026, January 17). Composers in the old days used to keep strictly to the base of the theme, as their real subject. Beethoven varies the melody, harmony and rhythms so beautifully. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/composers-in-the-old-days-used-to-keep-strictly-52094/
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Brahms, Johannes. "Composers in the old days used to keep strictly to the base of the theme, as their real subject. Beethoven varies the melody, harmony and rhythms so beautifully." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/composers-in-the-old-days-used-to-keep-strictly-52094/.
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"Composers in the old days used to keep strictly to the base of the theme, as their real subject. Beethoven varies the melody, harmony and rhythms so beautifully." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/composers-in-the-old-days-used-to-keep-strictly-52094/. Accessed 13 Feb. 2026.



