"Forget it, Louis, no Civil War picture ever made a nickel"
About this Quote
The subtext is sharper. “Forget it, Louis” isn’t just advice; it’s a power move, the voice of the industry disciplining its own ambitions. It implies a recurring temptation among filmmakers (and financiers): to chase legitimacy by laundering art through history. Thalberg punctures that self-seriousness with a single metric: a nickel. Not “respect,” not “awards,” not “importance” - coin. The phrase also smuggles in a cynical read of audiences: mass taste, in his view, doesn’t buy mourning clothes. It buys escape.
Context matters: Thalberg is speaking from the early sound-era studio system, when production slates were calibrated like portfolios, and “pictures” were engineered to minimize risk. The irony, of course, is that Hollywood would soon discover how wrong he could be - the Civil War would mint money when framed as melodrama, spectacle, and ideology (hello, Gone with the Wind). That’s the quiet brilliance of the line: it captures a moment when the industry thought it could quantify desire, right before desire rewrote the spreadsheet.
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| Topic | Movie |
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| Source | Later attribution: How to Almost Make a Million Dollars (Robert X. Leeds, 2005) modern compilationISBN: 9780967402550 · ID: iInNeQP6AqQC
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... Irving Thalberg told his boss , MGM's Louis B. Mayer , " Forget it , Louis . No Civil War picture ever made a nickel . " Gary Cooper turned down the chance to play Rhett Butler and remarked , " I'm just glad it'll be Clark Gable who's ... |
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"Forget it, Louis, no Civil War picture ever made a nickel." FixQuotes, 12 Mar. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/forget-it-louis-no-civil-war-picture-ever-made-a-137135/. Accessed 18 Mar. 2026.





