"Here at Wisconsin we didn't get an undergraduate course in mathematical logic until the '60s"
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Coming from Kleene, the remark carries extra bite. He wasn't a fringe crank; he helped build the modern foundations of computability and recursion theory. When someone of that stature notes how late logic entered the undergraduate pipeline, he's pointing to a structural lag: the university could produce excellent mathematicians while still failing to train students in the formal languages and proof-theoretic thinking that would soon power computer science. The '60s date is a cultural pivot, not just an administrative detail. By then, Turing's legacy had matured, the idea of computation had become a research engine, and departments began to realize that logic wasn't metaphysical window-dressing; it was a way to formalize what "algorithm" and "proof" even mean.
The subtext is institutional inertia. Academia likes to imagine itself as a conveyor belt of progress, but Kleene reminds you the belt skips gears: disciplines don't advance in neat order, and what gets taught often reflects prestige and habit more than intellectual necessity.
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"Here at Wisconsin we didn't get an undergraduate course in mathematical logic until the '60s." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/here-at-wisconsin-we-didnt-get-an-undergraduate-154839/. Accessed 6 Feb. 2026.
