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Creativity Quote by Charlie Haden

"I always told the people at Cal Arts that if they wanted me to do Jazz studies, first of all, there couldn't be a big band within 500 miles and that I could do what I wanted to do. And they said I could"

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There’s a whole manifesto smuggled into that deadpan conditional. Charlie Haden isn’t just recounting an administrative negotiation; he’s staking out a philosophy of jazz education that treats institutional legitimacy as suspect unless it makes room for refusal. The “no big band within 500 miles” line lands like a joke, but it’s also a boundary drawn with cartoonish distance for a serious reason: Haden is swatting away the most school-friendly, repertoire-bound version of jazz, the kind that can be graded, juried, and safely mounted on risers.

Big band isn’t the enemy here so much as what it symbolizes inside a conservatory: hierarchy, obedience to charts, a polished sound that can drift into museum work. Haden came up in the post-bop and free-jazz currents where tone, time, and politics all mattered; his collaborations and his activism made jazz feel less like a department and more like a stance. So the subtext is: if you’re hiring me, you’re hiring an ethic of independence, not a curriculum.

The kicker is the final sentence: “And they said I could.” It’s anticlimactic on purpose. The power move is in making the institution agree to be porous, to let the teacher operate like an artist rather than a functionary. In the broader context of CalArts - a school built on interdisciplinarity and rule-bending - the quote captures a rare moment when academia doesn’t domesticate jazz; it’s forced to meet it on its own terms.

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Haden, Charlie. (2026, January 17). I always told the people at Cal Arts that if they wanted me to do Jazz studies, first of all, there couldn't be a big band within 500 miles and that I could do what I wanted to do. And they said I could. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-always-told-the-people-at-cal-arts-that-if-they-47152/

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Haden, Charlie. "I always told the people at Cal Arts that if they wanted me to do Jazz studies, first of all, there couldn't be a big band within 500 miles and that I could do what I wanted to do. And they said I could." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-always-told-the-people-at-cal-arts-that-if-they-47152/.

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"I always told the people at Cal Arts that if they wanted me to do Jazz studies, first of all, there couldn't be a big band within 500 miles and that I could do what I wanted to do. And they said I could." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-always-told-the-people-at-cal-arts-that-if-they-47152/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.

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Charlie Haden (August 6, 1937 - July 11, 2014) was a Musician from USA.

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