"I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning"
About this Quote
The subtext is a turf war inside the ancient intellectual class. Math is prestigious in Plato’s Athens; it offers certainty in a culture drenched in rhetoric, politics, and persuasion. Plato both borrows that prestige and corrals it. He wants the aura of mathematical necessity for philosophy, while insisting philosophy outranks mathematics because it interrogates first principles. The insult functions as a boundary marker: calculation is not contemplation; proof is not understanding.
Contextually, it also echoes Plato’s larger suspicion of specialists. The Republic is full of people who do their job well but lack the kind of reflective knowledge required to rule. The mathematician becomes a convenient emblem of narrow excellence - someone who can “reason” only after the axioms are handed to them. Plato’s real target isn’t math; it’s the comfort of staying inside clean abstractions when reality is messier and demands judgment.
Quote Details
| Topic | Reason & Logic |
|---|---|
| Source | Help us find the source |
| Cite |
Citation Formats
APA Style (7th ed.)
Plato. (2026, January 17). I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-have-hardly-ever-known-a-mathematician-who-was-29279/
Chicago Style
Plato. "I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-have-hardly-ever-known-a-mathematician-who-was-29279/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"I have hardly ever known a mathematician who was capable of reasoning." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-have-hardly-ever-known-a-mathematician-who-was-29279/. Accessed 11 Feb. 2026.






