"I mean, I don't think I would call Claus to do an album of big band tunes. You know, just like arrangers write for the artist they have in mind; you have to keep in mind if you're going to work with Claus Ogerman. You invite him to do what he does"
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Krall is making a deceptively pointed case for artistic matchmaking, and she does it with the casual authority of someone who’s spent her career watching brilliant people get misused. The name-drop is the tell: Claus Ogerman isn’t just “an arranger,” he’s a signature. His lush, cinematic strings and harmonic sophistication are a whole vocabulary, historically tied to singers and jazz artists who want atmosphere as much as swing. So when she says she wouldn’t call him for “an album of big band tunes,” it’s not a swipe at big band; it’s a reminder that style is labor, not a costume you can demand on command.
The subtext is about respect and power in the studio. Pop culture loves the myth of the producer-for-hire who can shapeshift into anything. Krall pushes back: collaboration isn’t ordering off a menu, it’s inviting a specialist to do their specialty. “You invite him to do what he does” is managerial language softened into musician talk, and it quietly asserts her own competence as a curator. She’s signaling that her role isn’t just to sing; it’s to build the conditions where taste, craft, and reputation align.
There’s also a cultural context here: jazz and “adult” pop often get treated as interchangeable retro décor. Krall draws a boundary. Big band is an idiom with its own architecture; Ogerman’s world is another. The line lands because it defends artistry without romanticizing it: know the tool, know the job, respect the person holding it.
The subtext is about respect and power in the studio. Pop culture loves the myth of the producer-for-hire who can shapeshift into anything. Krall pushes back: collaboration isn’t ordering off a menu, it’s inviting a specialist to do their specialty. “You invite him to do what he does” is managerial language softened into musician talk, and it quietly asserts her own competence as a curator. She’s signaling that her role isn’t just to sing; it’s to build the conditions where taste, craft, and reputation align.
There’s also a cultural context here: jazz and “adult” pop often get treated as interchangeable retro décor. Krall draws a boundary. Big band is an idiom with its own architecture; Ogerman’s world is another. The line lands because it defends artistry without romanticizing it: know the tool, know the job, respect the person holding it.
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