"I mean, Iggy and The Stooges' first couple of albums, I think, sold twenty five thousand between the two of them, you know, and so, to talk in terms of an underground, I mean, you have to go really to the independent labels and things like that"
About this Quote
The halting, conversational cadence matters. “I mean... you know... and so” isn’t sloppy; it’s Bangs thinking aloud, refusing the critic’s god-voice. That looseness is a strategy against the kind of tidy genre mythology critics often manufacture. He’s also shifting the argument from vibe to infrastructure. If you want “underground,” don’t point to a cult band with some sales and a label budget; look at the actual systems that make music marginal: independent labels, tiny pressing runs, local networks, the unglamorous logistics of getting records into hands.
Contextually, this sits inside the 70s rock press moment when punk and “authenticity” became marketable narratives. Bangs resists the easy storyline where commercial failure equals artistic truth. He’s arguing that underground isn’t an attitude; it’s an economy. And he’s warning: once you start selling the underground as a concept, it stops being underground and starts being a brand.
Quote Details
| Topic | Music |
|---|---|
| Source | Help us find the source |
| Cite |
Citation Formats
APA Style (7th ed.)
Bangs, Lester. (2026, February 18). I mean, Iggy and The Stooges' first couple of albums, I think, sold twenty five thousand between the two of them, you know, and so, to talk in terms of an underground, I mean, you have to go really to the independent labels and things like that. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-mean-iggy-and-the-stooges-first-couple-of-75889/
Chicago Style
Bangs, Lester. "I mean, Iggy and The Stooges' first couple of albums, I think, sold twenty five thousand between the two of them, you know, and so, to talk in terms of an underground, I mean, you have to go really to the independent labels and things like that." FixQuotes. February 18, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-mean-iggy-and-the-stooges-first-couple-of-75889/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"I mean, Iggy and The Stooges' first couple of albums, I think, sold twenty five thousand between the two of them, you know, and so, to talk in terms of an underground, I mean, you have to go really to the independent labels and things like that." FixQuotes, 18 Feb. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/i-mean-iggy-and-the-stooges-first-couple-of-75889/. Accessed 2 Mar. 2026.

