"If you asked anybody in my family, they would have very stridently proclaimed themselves middle class. My mother and father were separated, so he doesn't count"
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Then he snaps the frame with “so he doesn’t count.” On the surface it’s a joke about divorce arithmetic, but the subtext is sharper: family narratives are curated, and inconvenient facts get edited out. If the father’s absence affects household stability, income, and status, pretending he “doesn’t count” is both an emotional survival tactic and a class tactic. It’s how people protect the story they tell about themselves when life has already knocked the structure loose.
Coming from a folk musician who lived around bohemian scenes and the postwar churn of New York, the quote also reads like a sideways critique of authenticity. Folk culture prized “realness,” yet even “real” backgrounds get mythologized. Van Ronk’s humor isn’t just self-deprecating; it’s diagnostic. He’s showing how class identity often functions like a song you keep singing because it’s the only one that lets you stay on key: proud, normal, unbroken - even when the family, and the economy, are anything but.
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Ronk, Dave Van. (2026, January 15). If you asked anybody in my family, they would have very stridently proclaimed themselves middle class. My mother and father were separated, so he doesn't count. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/if-you-asked-anybody-in-my-family-they-would-have-143514/
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Ronk, Dave Van. "If you asked anybody in my family, they would have very stridently proclaimed themselves middle class. My mother and father were separated, so he doesn't count." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/if-you-asked-anybody-in-my-family-they-would-have-143514/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"If you asked anybody in my family, they would have very stridently proclaimed themselves middle class. My mother and father were separated, so he doesn't count." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/if-you-asked-anybody-in-my-family-they-would-have-143514/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.



