"If you're treated a certain way, you become a certain kind of person. If certain things are described to you as being real, they're real for you whether they're real or not"
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The second line sharpens into epistemology, but with street-level clarity. Reality, Baldwin suggests, is often a managed narrative. If authority figures “describe” something as real, that description becomes an operating system for your choices, fears, and limits. It doesn’t matter whether the claim is factually true; it matters whether it functions as true. That’s how myths of inferiority, danger, or “proper place” reproduce themselves without needing constant force. You internalize the map you’re given, then navigate accordingly.
Context matters: spoken by an educator, this reads like a warning about pedagogy as world-building. Education doesn’t just transmit information; it distributes legitimacy. The subtext is moral and political: if you teach people a shrunken version of themselves - through discipline, tracking, stereotypes, or erased histories - you don’t just misinform them. You manufacture them.
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| Source | Evidence: If you're treated a certain way you become a certain kind of person. If certain things are described to you as being real they're real for you whether they're real or not. (Page 52). This wording appears in the published transcript of a conversation between James Baldwin and Nikki Giovanni, issued as the book *A Dialogue* (J. B. Lippincott & Co., 1973). In at least one scanned copy of the 1973 book, the quote appears on p. 52 in Baldwin’s remarks. Library/catalog records note the book was developed from a conversation taped for the TV program *Soul!* and first shown in the U.S. in December 1971 (WNET-TV), meaning the quote was likely spoken in 1971 and first published in book form in 1973. Other candidates (1) Conversations with Nikki Giovanni (Nikki Giovanni, 1992) compilation98.1% ... If you're treated a certain way you become a certain kind of person . If certain things are described to you as b... |
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Baldwin, James. (2026, February 16). If you're treated a certain way, you become a certain kind of person. If certain things are described to you as being real, they're real for you whether they're real or not. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/if-youre-treated-a-certain-way-you-become-a-167634/
Chicago Style
Baldwin, James. "If you're treated a certain way, you become a certain kind of person. If certain things are described to you as being real, they're real for you whether they're real or not." FixQuotes. February 16, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/if-youre-treated-a-certain-way-you-become-a-167634/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"If you're treated a certain way, you become a certain kind of person. If certain things are described to you as being real, they're real for you whether they're real or not." FixQuotes, 16 Feb. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/if-youre-treated-a-certain-way-you-become-a-167634/. Accessed 18 Feb. 2026.









