"In the last five or six thousand years, empires one after another have arisen, waxed powerful by wars of conquest, and fallen by internal revolution or attack from without"
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As a politician best known for linking nutrition, poverty, and peace, Orr isn't doing armchair antiquarianism. He's making a policy argument in historical drag: if power is built through organized violence, it produces internal contradictions - inequality, resentment, overextension - that eventually detonate. His pairing of "internal revolution" and "attack from without" is telling. It's not just that enemies topple empires; empires manufacture enemies at home and abroad. Conquest expands borders, then expands the list of people who have reasons to resist.
The time scale - "five or six thousand years" - widens the frame beyond any single nation, which is a subtle rebuke to mid-century exceptionalism. Writing in the shadow of two world wars and at the dawn of decolonization, Orr is warning that modern states are not exempt from the old cycle just because their armies are mechanized or their rhetoric is moralized. The intent isn't to scold the past; it's to puncture complacency in the present, and to suggest that stability comes less from dominating others than from building societies that don't curdle from within.
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Orr, John Boyd. (2026, January 15). In the last five or six thousand years, empires one after another have arisen, waxed powerful by wars of conquest, and fallen by internal revolution or attack from without. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/in-the-last-five-or-six-thousand-years-empires-156829/
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Orr, John Boyd. "In the last five or six thousand years, empires one after another have arisen, waxed powerful by wars of conquest, and fallen by internal revolution or attack from without." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/in-the-last-five-or-six-thousand-years-empires-156829/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"In the last five or six thousand years, empires one after another have arisen, waxed powerful by wars of conquest, and fallen by internal revolution or attack from without." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/in-the-last-five-or-six-thousand-years-empires-156829/. Accessed 21 Feb. 2026.






