"It has often struck me that the relation of two important members of the social body to one another has never been sufficiently considered, or treated of, so far as I know, either by the philosopher or the poet"
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Payn's real move is gatekeeping and goading at once. By invoking "the philosopher or the poet", he points to the two authorities who supposedly map human life: the one who theorizes it, the one who makes it felt. His insinuation is that both have failed at something basic not because it's unknowable, but because it's inconvenient. Victorian literature loved grand moral arcs and neat domestic endings; Victorian philosophy loved abstractions. Payn hints at a gap where the messy mechanics of everyday power, dependency, gender, class, or labor should be.
As a novelist, he positions himself as the medium built for that missing inquiry. The sentence performs a polite rebellion: it borrows the tone of deference to announce an intervention. Subtext: if the great thinkers and singers haven't treated this relation, perhaps it's because they're invested in not seeing it clearly. Payn invites the reader to notice the blind spot and to enjoy, a little, the coming act of looking straight at it.
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Payn, James. (2026, January 17). It has often struck me that the relation of two important members of the social body to one another has never been sufficiently considered, or treated of, so far as I know, either by the philosopher or the poet. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/it-has-often-struck-me-that-the-relation-of-two-49739/
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Payn, James. "It has often struck me that the relation of two important members of the social body to one another has never been sufficiently considered, or treated of, so far as I know, either by the philosopher or the poet." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/it-has-often-struck-me-that-the-relation-of-two-49739/.
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"It has often struck me that the relation of two important members of the social body to one another has never been sufficiently considered, or treated of, so far as I know, either by the philosopher or the poet." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/it-has-often-struck-me-that-the-relation-of-two-49739/. Accessed 9 Feb. 2026.











