"It won't do away with hierarchy totally, but the principal leader will be the person who most exemplifies the kind of organization and behavior required who is best able to create the conditions such organizations require"
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A neat bit of corporate heresy hides inside Dee Hock's managerly phrasing: hierarchy is inevitable, but legitimacy is optional. Hock isn’t pitching a utopia where power evaporates; he’s arguing that the only hierarchy worth keeping is one that earns its authority by modeling the system it wants to sustain. The “principal leader” isn’t the biggest decider-in-chief, but the person who most visibly embodies the organization’s operating code.
The subtext is a rebuke to command-and-control leadership disguised as pragmatism. By admitting hierarchy won’t disappear, he disarms the skeptic in the room, then flips the script: the real job of leadership is less issuing orders than designing conditions. “Create the conditions” is doing the heavy lifting here. It reframes leadership as ecological rather than mechanical - cultivate the environment, align incentives, protect feedback loops, and let competent behavior propagate. Power becomes curatorial.
Context matters: Hock founded Visa and became famous for “chaordic” organization - systems that balance chaos and order across decentralized networks. In that world, traditional hierarchy is too slow and brittle; the center can’t “know” enough to control the edges. So Hock’s intent is to make leadership compatible with complexity: the leader is the best exemplar and the best enabler, not the loudest authority.
It works because it offers a credible alternative to both fantasies: the fantasy of flatness (no hierarchy) and the fantasy of omniscience (the leader as master planner). Hock’s ideal leader doesn’t stand above the system; they stand as proof that the system’s norms can actually be lived.
The subtext is a rebuke to command-and-control leadership disguised as pragmatism. By admitting hierarchy won’t disappear, he disarms the skeptic in the room, then flips the script: the real job of leadership is less issuing orders than designing conditions. “Create the conditions” is doing the heavy lifting here. It reframes leadership as ecological rather than mechanical - cultivate the environment, align incentives, protect feedback loops, and let competent behavior propagate. Power becomes curatorial.
Context matters: Hock founded Visa and became famous for “chaordic” organization - systems that balance chaos and order across decentralized networks. In that world, traditional hierarchy is too slow and brittle; the center can’t “know” enough to control the edges. So Hock’s intent is to make leadership compatible with complexity: the leader is the best exemplar and the best enabler, not the loudest authority.
It works because it offers a credible alternative to both fantasies: the fantasy of flatness (no hierarchy) and the fantasy of omniscience (the leader as master planner). Hock’s ideal leader doesn’t stand above the system; they stand as proof that the system’s norms can actually be lived.
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