"It would not be better if things happened to men just as they wish"
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The intent is corrective. Havner, a 20th-century Christian preacher and writer, worked in a culture that increasingly sold comfort as a moral right. Against that, he positions disappointment as a kind of mercy. If we got what we wanted on schedule, we’d fossilize inside our own appetites. The subtext is that unchecked wanting doesn’t produce flourishing; it produces entitlement, spiritual laziness, and a thin, consumer-grade idea of “good.”
Notice the quiet dodge: he doesn’t say it would be “nice” or “pleasant” if wishes came true. He chooses “better,” a moral word. That’s the tell. The quote isn’t about mood; it’s about formation. Havner is defending the hard, unpopular claim that character is often built by friction: delays, losses, unanswered prayers, the humiliating discovery that we were aiming at the wrong thing.
In context, it reads like a rebuke to both prosperity religion and modern self-help optimism. Havner isn’t romanticizing suffering; he’s puncturing the fantasy that our desires are reliable guides. The line works because it flatters no one, and it reframes frustration as evidence that we are not the center of the story.
Quote Details
| Topic | Free Will & Fate |
|---|---|
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Havner, Vance. (n.d.). It would not be better if things happened to men just as they wish. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/it-would-not-be-better-if-things-happened-to-men-121493/
Chicago Style
Havner, Vance. "It would not be better if things happened to men just as they wish." FixQuotes. Accessed February 2, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/it-would-not-be-better-if-things-happened-to-men-121493/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"It would not be better if things happened to men just as they wish." FixQuotes, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/it-would-not-be-better-if-things-happened-to-men-121493/. Accessed 2 Feb. 2026.









