"Mathematicians are like managers - they want improvement without change"
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The subtext is Dijkstra’s longtime impatience with fashionable reform that preserves the status quo. In mathematics, you see it in the preference for cleaner proofs that don’t force a rethink of foundational assumptions; in software, in the appetite for “better” systems that promise fewer bugs and more speed without touching architecture, tooling, or culture. By invoking managers, he also critiques a structural incentive: institutions reward measurable gains while punishing disruption. So you get a theater of optimization - new metrics, new methodologies, refactored jargon - that keeps existing power arrangements intact.
Context matters: Dijkstra spent his career arguing that software engineering needed radical discipline (formal methods, proof-like reasoning), not just louder promises. The barb is aimed at the managerial mindset that treats complexity as a PR problem, and at the mathematician’s temptation to mistake elegance for inevitability. He’s warning that real progress has a cost: it changes how you think, not just what you ship.
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