"Mathematicians are like managers - they want improvement without change"
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Dijkstra lands the punch by pairing two tribes that like to think of themselves as opposites: mathematicians, guardians of rigor, and managers, guardians of delivery. The joke isn’t that mathematicians are secretly corporate; it’s that both groups can fall in love with a kind of progress that doesn’t disturb the furniture. “Improvement without change” is a carefully engineered contradiction. It flatters the audience’s desire for advancement, then exposes the fantasy underneath: most “improvements” worth naming require someone to surrender a habit, a notation, a workflow, a cherished abstraction.
The subtext is Dijkstra’s longtime impatience with fashionable reform that preserves the status quo. In mathematics, you see it in the preference for cleaner proofs that don’t force a rethink of foundational assumptions; in software, in the appetite for “better” systems that promise fewer bugs and more speed without touching architecture, tooling, or culture. By invoking managers, he also critiques a structural incentive: institutions reward measurable gains while punishing disruption. So you get a theater of optimization - new metrics, new methodologies, refactored jargon - that keeps existing power arrangements intact.
Context matters: Dijkstra spent his career arguing that software engineering needed radical discipline (formal methods, proof-like reasoning), not just louder promises. The barb is aimed at the managerial mindset that treats complexity as a PR problem, and at the mathematician’s temptation to mistake elegance for inevitability. He’s warning that real progress has a cost: it changes how you think, not just what you ship.
The subtext is Dijkstra’s longtime impatience with fashionable reform that preserves the status quo. In mathematics, you see it in the preference for cleaner proofs that don’t force a rethink of foundational assumptions; in software, in the appetite for “better” systems that promise fewer bugs and more speed without touching architecture, tooling, or culture. By invoking managers, he also critiques a structural incentive: institutions reward measurable gains while punishing disruption. So you get a theater of optimization - new metrics, new methodologies, refactored jargon - that keeps existing power arrangements intact.
Context matters: Dijkstra spent his career arguing that software engineering needed radical discipline (formal methods, proof-like reasoning), not just louder promises. The barb is aimed at the managerial mindset that treats complexity as a PR problem, and at the mathematician’s temptation to mistake elegance for inevitability. He’s warning that real progress has a cost: it changes how you think, not just what you ship.
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