"Noir is dead for me because historically, I think it's a simple view. I've taken it as far as it can go. I think I've expanded on it a great deal, taken it further than any other American novelist"
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The subtext is competitive and territorial. “I’ve taken it as far as it can go” isn’t modest finality; it’s a claim of authorship over a tradition. The line “further than any other American novelist” reads like bragging, but it also reveals anxiety about being contained by the label. Ellroy’s career is built on noir-adjacent obsessions - cops as gangsters, political rot, sex as leverage - yet his big books (especially the L.A. Quartet and Underworld USA) operate less like noir puzzles and more like paranoid national histories. He wants the credit for expanding the frame from private sin to public machinery.
Context matters: Ellroy emerged when “noir” became a market category, a vibe, even a retro costume in film and publishing. His refusal is partly artistic evolution, partly rejection of branding. He’s insisting that the American nightmare isn’t a mood; it’s an archive.
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"Noir is dead for me because historically, I think it's a simple view. I've taken it as far as it can go. I think I've expanded on it a great deal, taken it further than any other American novelist." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/noir-is-dead-for-me-because-historically-i-think-79484/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.




