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"Not that there weren't great shows, and not that there wasn't plenty of fine music played. It's just that the consistency and the height of where we could take it, with the help of the audience, was less, I felt, in the '90s"

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Nostalgia is easy; Phil Lesh is doing something harder: he’s grading an era he helped define without letting it off the hook. The opening double-negative is a musician’s version of “don’t get me wrong,” but it’s also a preemptive defense against the Deadhead instinct to litigate setlists like scripture. He concedes the evidence - “great shows,” “fine music” - then pivots to what really matters in this culture: the nightly ceiling.

“Consistency” and “height” are band-insider terms that sound technical but land emotionally. Lesh isn’t talking about whether the notes were correct; he’s talking about whether the music reliably crossed the threshold from performance into communion. That’s why the most revealing clause is “with the help of the audience.” In the Grateful Dead universe, the crowd isn’t a consumer base, it’s an instrument - a feedback loop that can lift a jam into the stratosphere or flatten it into routine. He’s quietly admitting that the band’s magic wasn’t self-contained; it depended on a specific kind of collective attention.

The subtext of the ’90s, then, isn’t just “older band, different decade.” It’s the weight of late-period reality: larger venues, a more fragmented scene, a changing drug culture, and the creeping sense of autopilot that can haunt any long-running act. Lesh’s phrasing “was less, I felt” keeps it personal rather than prosecutorial. He’s not issuing a verdict; he’s mourning a lost voltage - and reminding fans that greatness, for this band, was never guaranteed.

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Lesh, Phil. (2026, January 15). Not that there weren't great shows, and not that there wasn't plenty of fine music played. It's just that the consistency and the height of where we could take it, with the help of the audience, was less, I felt, in the '90s. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/not-that-there-werent-great-shows-and-not-that-164423/

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Lesh, Phil. "Not that there weren't great shows, and not that there wasn't plenty of fine music played. It's just that the consistency and the height of where we could take it, with the help of the audience, was less, I felt, in the '90s." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/not-that-there-werent-great-shows-and-not-that-164423/.

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"Not that there weren't great shows, and not that there wasn't plenty of fine music played. It's just that the consistency and the height of where we could take it, with the help of the audience, was less, I felt, in the '90s." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/not-that-there-werent-great-shows-and-not-that-164423/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.

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Phil Lesh (born March 15, 1940) is a Musician from USA.

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