"So Chuck and I looked at that and we hacked on em for a while, and eventually we ripped the stuff out of em and put some of it into what was then called en, which was really ed with some em features"
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There is a whole worldview hiding in this scruffy little sentence: a culture that treats software less like a product and more like a living organism you cut into, splice, and set loose again. Bill Joy isn’t delivering a polished mission statement; he’s speaking in the native dialect of early Unix - improvised, collaborative, and ruthlessly pragmatic. The casual “hacked on em” signals not criminality but craft: late-night tinkering, intimate familiarity with the machine, and an assumption that the fastest route to progress is to touch the code directly.
The real punchline is the genealogy he sketches almost accidentally. “Ripped the stuff out of em” is the understated violence of good engineering: when a tool’s design is wrong for the environment, you don’t negotiate with it, you excise it. Then comes the quiet origin myth: what “was then called en” becomes “really ed with some em features.” In a few muddy clauses, Joy describes how software evolves through borrowing and mutation rather than clean-room invention. Innovation here isn’t a lightning bolt; it’s selective theft with taste.
Context matters: Joy is talking from the era when core tools (editors, shells, utilities) were being forged inside Bell Labs and university systems, before “user experience” became a department. The subtext is a kind of anti-romance. Credit is distributed, names are temporary, and the point isn’t narrative coherence - it’s that the system works tomorrow. That shrugging tone is itself a flex: the future got built by people too busy to sound like they were building the future.
The real punchline is the genealogy he sketches almost accidentally. “Ripped the stuff out of em” is the understated violence of good engineering: when a tool’s design is wrong for the environment, you don’t negotiate with it, you excise it. Then comes the quiet origin myth: what “was then called en” becomes “really ed with some em features.” In a few muddy clauses, Joy describes how software evolves through borrowing and mutation rather than clean-room invention. Innovation here isn’t a lightning bolt; it’s selective theft with taste.
Context matters: Joy is talking from the era when core tools (editors, shells, utilities) were being forged inside Bell Labs and university systems, before “user experience” became a department. The subtext is a kind of anti-romance. Credit is distributed, names are temporary, and the point isn’t narrative coherence - it’s that the system works tomorrow. That shrugging tone is itself a flex: the future got built by people too busy to sound like they were building the future.
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