Skip to main content

Art & Creativity Quote by Walter Pater

"Such discussions help us very little to enjoy what has been well done in art or poetry, to discriminate between what is more and what is less excellent in them, or to use words like beauty, excellence, art, poetry, with a more precise meaning than they would otherwise have"

About this Quote

Pater is doing that very Victorian thing: politely eviscerating the intellectual hobbyhorse without sounding like he spilled the tea. The target here is the kind of talk-about-art that treats “beauty” and “poetry” as if they’re self-evident categories, or worse, as moral badges. He’s not anti-theory; he’s anti-theory that can’t cash out in perception. If a discussion doesn’t sharpen your ability to actually enjoy a work, or to tell the difference between good and great, it’s just fog with footnotes.

The sentence’s craft mirrors its argument. Pater piles up practical verbs - enjoy, discriminate, use - then undercuts lofty abstractions (“beauty, excellence, art, poetry”) by stressing “more precise meaning.” That’s the subtext: precision isn’t pedantry, it’s ethics for the senses. He’s asking criticism to be accountable to experience, to train attention rather than inflate vocabulary.

Context matters. Writing in the aesthetic movement’s orbit, Pater is resisting both evangelical moralism in criticism and the era’s appetite for grand systems. He wants the critic as a calibrated instrument, not a preacher or a taxonomist. There’s a quiet elitism here - not everyone is trained to “discriminate” - but it’s an elitism of discipline, not pedigree. The jab lands because it flatters the reader’s intelligence while demanding work: stop using big words as placeholders, and start using them as tools that cut.

Quote Details

TopicArt
SourceHelp us find the source
CiteCite this Quote

Citation Formats

APA Style (7th ed.)
Pater, Walter. (2026, January 16). Such discussions help us very little to enjoy what has been well done in art or poetry, to discriminate between what is more and what is less excellent in them, or to use words like beauty, excellence, art, poetry, with a more precise meaning than they would otherwise have. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/such-discussions-help-us-very-little-to-enjoy-129539/

Chicago Style
Pater, Walter. "Such discussions help us very little to enjoy what has been well done in art or poetry, to discriminate between what is more and what is less excellent in them, or to use words like beauty, excellence, art, poetry, with a more precise meaning than they would otherwise have." FixQuotes. January 16, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/such-discussions-help-us-very-little-to-enjoy-129539/.

MLA Style (9th ed.)
"Such discussions help us very little to enjoy what has been well done in art or poetry, to discriminate between what is more and what is less excellent in them, or to use words like beauty, excellence, art, poetry, with a more precise meaning than they would otherwise have." FixQuotes, 16 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/such-discussions-help-us-very-little-to-enjoy-129539/. Accessed 3 Feb. 2026.

More Quotes by Walter Add to List
Discussing Art and Poetry: Walter Pater on Direct Experience
Click to enlarge Portrait | Landscape

About the Author

England Flag

Walter Pater (August 4, 1839 - July 30, 1894) was a Critic from England.

24 more quotes available

View Profile

Similar Quotes