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"That was one of the big problems when I was at Harvard studying music. We had to write choral pieces in the style of Brahms or Mendelssohn, which was distressing because in the end you realized how good Brahms is, and how bad you are"

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There is a kind of brutal honesty hiding inside Carter's wry complaint: the assignment isnt really about imitation, its about humiliation as pedagogy. Harvard's conservatory-style exercise - write like Brahms, write like Mendelssohn - sounds quaint, even wholesome, until Carter flips it. The "distressing" part isnt the labor; its the mirror. To reverse-engineer a master is to learn, in intimate detail, why their decisions feel inevitable. Your own decisions, by contrast, feel like guesses.

Carter's punchline lands because it punctures the romantic myth that talent is mostly inspiration. He frames craftsmanship as something you can be graded on, then admits that the closer you get to the machinery, the more you sense your distance from genius. Its self-deprecation, but also a quiet defense of difficulty: training that produces discomfort is doing its job. The joke is that the institution thinks its teaching style; Carter finds it teaching scale.

Context matters: Carter came of age in American music when "serious" composition was negotiating its relationship to the European canon and, soon, to modernism. For a young composer who would later build an aggressively personal, time-bending language, being forced into Brahmsian clothing becomes both constraint and catalyst. The subtext is almost conspiratorial: you dont escape tradition by ignoring it; you escape by failing at it so thoroughly you have to invent your own solution.

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Carter, Elliott. (2026, January 15). That was one of the big problems when I was at Harvard studying music. We had to write choral pieces in the style of Brahms or Mendelssohn, which was distressing because in the end you realized how good Brahms is, and how bad you are. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/that-was-one-of-the-big-problems-when-i-was-at-143302/

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Carter, Elliott. "That was one of the big problems when I was at Harvard studying music. We had to write choral pieces in the style of Brahms or Mendelssohn, which was distressing because in the end you realized how good Brahms is, and how bad you are." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/that-was-one-of-the-big-problems-when-i-was-at-143302/.

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"That was one of the big problems when I was at Harvard studying music. We had to write choral pieces in the style of Brahms or Mendelssohn, which was distressing because in the end you realized how good Brahms is, and how bad you are." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/that-was-one-of-the-big-problems-when-i-was-at-143302/. Accessed 13 Feb. 2026.

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Elliott Carter (December 11, 1908 - November 5, 2012) was a Composer from USA.

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