"The bigger we get, I think the more it's changing things, which is great, but we didn't set out to do that. We just wanted to be as big as we possibly could be"
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Success, in Dan Hawkins's telling, is less a mission than a momentum. The line starts with a modest-sounding observation - "the more it's changing things" - then quickly tucks the band behind the wake they leave. It's a familiar rock narrative, but it works because it admits the uncomfortable truth behind most "movement" art: impact is often a byproduct, not a blueprint.
There's a clever tension in the way he frames bigness as both accidental and aggressively pursued. "We didn't set out to do that" is a pre-emptive defense against the charge of self-importance, the kind of thing artists say when they're wary of being cast as culture-war generals or spokespersons for a generation. Yet the next sentence undercuts that humility with blunt ambition: "We just wanted to be as big as we possibly could be". Not "better", not "truer", not "different" - bigger. Hawkins is naming the industry's gravitational pull: scale is the currency that buys longevity, budgets, radio, tours, and the chance to keep making work on your own terms.
The subtext is also about control. If change is happening, it's almost like the band can't fully claim it, which conveniently shields them from responsibility for how their growth reshapes scenes, tastes, or expectations. In the 2000s-era arc many rock bands rode - from scrappy credibility to arena aspiration - that ambiguity is the sweet spot: sound earnest, stay ambitious, and let the cultural consequences read as a happy side effect.
There's a clever tension in the way he frames bigness as both accidental and aggressively pursued. "We didn't set out to do that" is a pre-emptive defense against the charge of self-importance, the kind of thing artists say when they're wary of being cast as culture-war generals or spokespersons for a generation. Yet the next sentence undercuts that humility with blunt ambition: "We just wanted to be as big as we possibly could be". Not "better", not "truer", not "different" - bigger. Hawkins is naming the industry's gravitational pull: scale is the currency that buys longevity, budgets, radio, tours, and the chance to keep making work on your own terms.
The subtext is also about control. If change is happening, it's almost like the band can't fully claim it, which conveniently shields them from responsibility for how their growth reshapes scenes, tastes, or expectations. In the 2000s-era arc many rock bands rode - from scrappy credibility to arena aspiration - that ambiguity is the sweet spot: sound earnest, stay ambitious, and let the cultural consequences read as a happy side effect.
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