"The first, that their pretensions to this possession of an art properly so called in their art of speaking are entirely unfounded; and the second, that they are involved in a profound mistake in their confusion of the good with the pleasant"
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The second charge is moral psychology, and it bites harder. The "profound mistake" is confusing "the good with the pleasant" - treating what feels nice as if it were what is right. That distinction is a theological and philosophical fault line. In a culture where public speech is often justified by its effects (does it move the audience? does it reassure? does it entertain?), Schleiermacher is warning that persuasion is not self-validating. Pleasure is an unreliable witness; it can be manufactured, and it can be weaponized.
The subtext is a critique of modernity's emerging media logic: if eloquence works, it must be true; if it delights, it must be good. Schleiermacher, a theologian living amid Enlightenment rationalism and Romantic feeling, refuses both easy rationalist "method" and Romantic intoxication. He wants speech tethered to ethical truth, not performance metrics. In doing so, he anticipates a familiar problem: when the most compelling voice in the room starts to sound like the most credible conscience.
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Schleiermacher, Friedrich. (2026, January 18). The first, that their pretensions to this possession of an art properly so called in their art of speaking are entirely unfounded; and the second, that they are involved in a profound mistake in their confusion of the good with the pleasant. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-first-that-their-pretensions-to-this-3077/
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Schleiermacher, Friedrich. "The first, that their pretensions to this possession of an art properly so called in their art of speaking are entirely unfounded; and the second, that they are involved in a profound mistake in their confusion of the good with the pleasant." FixQuotes. January 18, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-first-that-their-pretensions-to-this-3077/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"The first, that their pretensions to this possession of an art properly so called in their art of speaking are entirely unfounded; and the second, that they are involved in a profound mistake in their confusion of the good with the pleasant." FixQuotes, 18 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-first-that-their-pretensions-to-this-3077/. Accessed 13 Feb. 2026.








