"The fundamental problem with vi is that it doesn't have a mouse and therefore you've got all these commands"
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Subtext: complexity is often a tax paid for missing affordances. Without a pointing device, vi has to turn editing into a language. You don’t just select, you “yank.” You don’t just delete, you “d.” The commands aren’t ornamentation; they’re a workaround that becomes a culture. Joy is poking at how quickly workarounds calcify into identity: the pride of mastery, the insider vocabulary, the sense that struggle equals seriousness.
Context matters. Joy helped shape Unix, a world built for speed, remote terminals, and hands on the keyboard. In that environment, vi’s terseness is a feature, not a bug: once internalized, it’s brutally efficient. His remark reads like an early warning about product design dogma: if your interface requires a catechism, you’re relying on commitment, not clarity. It’s also business logic in disguise. The mouse wasn’t just hardware; it was a mass-market on-ramp. Joy is pointing at the real competitive threat: not another editor, but an interface shift that makes the old virtuosity less valuable overnight.
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Joy, Bill. (2026, January 17). The fundamental problem with vi is that it doesn't have a mouse and therefore you've got all these commands. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-fundamental-problem-with-vi-is-that-it-doesnt-61163/
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Joy, Bill. "The fundamental problem with vi is that it doesn't have a mouse and therefore you've got all these commands." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-fundamental-problem-with-vi-is-that-it-doesnt-61163/.
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"The fundamental problem with vi is that it doesn't have a mouse and therefore you've got all these commands." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-fundamental-problem-with-vi-is-that-it-doesnt-61163/. Accessed 10 Feb. 2026.


