"The method of collective punishment so far has proved effective"
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“The method of collective punishment so far has proved effective” reads like a battlefield memo, but its chill comes from the bureaucratic calm. Dayan isn’t arguing; he’s reporting results. “Method” and “effective” are managerial words, the vocabulary of logistics and policy, not of grief or morality. That’s the point. By stripping the sentence of emotion, he strips the listener of an easy place to object. If it “works,” the ethical debate is framed as secondary, even indulgent.
The specific intent is deterrence: punish a community to discipline individuals. In insurgency and counterinsurgency logic, collective pain becomes a signal flare meant to rewrite cost-benefit calculations. Dayan’s phrasing suggests he’s speaking to decision-makers, not civilians - people who already accept a grim menu of options and want proof of efficacy. The line also functions as a prophylactic against scrutiny. “So far” is a lawyerly hedge: provisional, empirical, open to extension. If it keeps working, why stop?
The subtext is power speaking in the idiom of pragmatism. Collective punishment is controversial precisely because it collapses distinction - between combatant and bystander, guilty and merely adjacent. By presenting it as a tested “method,” Dayan implies that resistance is a technical problem with technical solutions. That rhetorical move is common in states managing populations under strain: turn moral rupture into administrative routine.
Context matters: Dayan’s career sits inside the formative decades of Israel’s security doctrine, shaped by raids, reprisals, and the belief that deterrence had to be visible and costly. The quote crystallizes that worldview - the confidence of the soldier-statesman, and the peril of measuring “effectiveness” without asking who pays, and what it makes of the society doing the measuring.
The specific intent is deterrence: punish a community to discipline individuals. In insurgency and counterinsurgency logic, collective pain becomes a signal flare meant to rewrite cost-benefit calculations. Dayan’s phrasing suggests he’s speaking to decision-makers, not civilians - people who already accept a grim menu of options and want proof of efficacy. The line also functions as a prophylactic against scrutiny. “So far” is a lawyerly hedge: provisional, empirical, open to extension. If it keeps working, why stop?
The subtext is power speaking in the idiom of pragmatism. Collective punishment is controversial precisely because it collapses distinction - between combatant and bystander, guilty and merely adjacent. By presenting it as a tested “method,” Dayan implies that resistance is a technical problem with technical solutions. That rhetorical move is common in states managing populations under strain: turn moral rupture into administrative routine.
Context matters: Dayan’s career sits inside the formative decades of Israel’s security doctrine, shaped by raids, reprisals, and the belief that deterrence had to be visible and costly. The quote crystallizes that worldview - the confidence of the soldier-statesman, and the peril of measuring “effectiveness” without asking who pays, and what it makes of the society doing the measuring.
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