"The only thing that might have annoyed some mathematicians was the presumption of assuming that maybe the axiom of choice could fail, and that we should look into contrary assumptions"
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Church is quietly needling his own tribe: not for being wrong, but for being temperamentally fragile about the possibility of wrongness. The “only thing” that might annoy mathematicians isn’t a technical flaw; it’s “the presumption” of even entertaining that a sacred tool like the axiom of choice could fail. That word choice is surgical. Presumption usually names an arrogant social breach, not a methodological one, which exposes the real subtext: in parts of mid-century mathematics, foundational commitments weren’t just logical conveniences, they were badges of belonging.
The axiom of choice sits at the heart of modern set theory and analysis, notorious for producing powerful results alongside counterintuitive “monsters” (Banach-Tarski, nonmeasurable sets). By Church’s era, independence results were reshaping the landscape: a statement’s status wasn’t simply true/false, but sometimes “undecidable from the accepted axioms.” Against that backdrop, “maybe…could fail” reads less like heresy and more like intellectual hygiene. If choice isn’t forced by your system, you don’t get to treat it as nature.
What makes the line work is its deadpan reversal of what counts as serious. The supposed offense is not rejecting proof, but refusing to treat an axiom as untouchable. “We should look into contrary assumptions” is the voice of mathematical pluralism before it became fashionable: explore alternate worlds, map what breaks, learn what your favorite principles are really buying you. Church frames that as ordinary inquiry, while hinting that the real scandal is emotional attachment dressed up as rigor.
The axiom of choice sits at the heart of modern set theory and analysis, notorious for producing powerful results alongside counterintuitive “monsters” (Banach-Tarski, nonmeasurable sets). By Church’s era, independence results were reshaping the landscape: a statement’s status wasn’t simply true/false, but sometimes “undecidable from the accepted axioms.” Against that backdrop, “maybe…could fail” reads less like heresy and more like intellectual hygiene. If choice isn’t forced by your system, you don’t get to treat it as nature.
What makes the line work is its deadpan reversal of what counts as serious. The supposed offense is not rejecting proof, but refusing to treat an axiom as untouchable. “We should look into contrary assumptions” is the voice of mathematical pluralism before it became fashionable: explore alternate worlds, map what breaks, learn what your favorite principles are really buying you. Church frames that as ordinary inquiry, while hinting that the real scandal is emotional attachment dressed up as rigor.
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