"The point of our demographics is that we're not having as many children and the population is stagnant, if not declining. So without immigration, we're not going to have the population"
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The subtext is a quiet rebuke to the fantasy version of national identity - the one that treats population as something that should perpetually reproduce itself from within, untouched. By saying “we’re not having as many children,” she pins responsibility on “our” choices and circumstances, not on outsiders. Immigration becomes a supplement to a self-inflicted shortfall, which flips the usual political script: the pressure isn’t that immigrants are changing the country, it’s that the country is already changing (aging, stagnating) and needs help to remain functional.
Context matters. Oliver lived through the postwar baby boom’s rise and its tapering off; by the 1970s and 1980s, fertility decline and economic anxiety were already colliding with heated debates over immigration and identity. Her phrasing is deliberately unromantic - no talk of dreams or melting pots - because the rhetorical move is to deny opponents the comfort of arguing culture while the numbers argue survival. The line’s power is its blunt trade-off: you can have fewer births or fewer people, but you can’t pretend both choices don’t come with a price.
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Oliver, Susan. (n.d.). The point of our demographics is that we're not having as many children and the population is stagnant, if not declining. So without immigration, we're not going to have the population. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-point-of-our-demographics-is-that-were-not-95034/
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Oliver, Susan. "The point of our demographics is that we're not having as many children and the population is stagnant, if not declining. So without immigration, we're not going to have the population." FixQuotes. Accessed February 1, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-point-of-our-demographics-is-that-were-not-95034/.
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"The point of our demographics is that we're not having as many children and the population is stagnant, if not declining. So without immigration, we're not going to have the population." FixQuotes, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/the-point-of-our-demographics-is-that-were-not-95034/. Accessed 1 Feb. 2026.






