"There is an apprenticeship system in jazz. You teach the young ones. So even if the musicians weren't personally that likable, they felt an obligation to help the younger musicians"
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The bite comes in the caveat: “even if the musicians weren’t personally that likable.” Van Ronk isn’t name-dropping saints; he’s describing a world where mentorship survives ego, rivalry, addiction, and the general abrasiveness of hard-earned mastery. In other words, the ethic isn’t sentimental. It’s structural. You don’t teach because you’re nice; you teach because you’re inside the guild, and the guild keeps the music alive.
Context matters here: Van Ronk, a folk scene lifer who bridged Greenwich Village and older Black musical lineages, understood how easily “community” gets mythologized after the fact. Jazz history is full of gatekeeping and exploitation, but also of bandstands functioning like classrooms - younger players learning repertoire, time, touch, and professionalism in real time, often under pressure. His line implies a counterintuitive generosity: the obligation to teach is what keeps the door cracked open, even when personalities would rather slam it shut.
Subtext: if modern music scenes want longevity, they need more than influencers and open mics. They need apprenticeship - and the humility to treat culture as something you inherit, then owe back.
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Ronk, Dave Van. (2026, January 15). There is an apprenticeship system in jazz. You teach the young ones. So even if the musicians weren't personally that likable, they felt an obligation to help the younger musicians. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-an-apprenticeship-system-in-jazz-you-143515/
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Ronk, Dave Van. "There is an apprenticeship system in jazz. You teach the young ones. So even if the musicians weren't personally that likable, they felt an obligation to help the younger musicians." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-an-apprenticeship-system-in-jazz-you-143515/.
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"There is an apprenticeship system in jazz. You teach the young ones. So even if the musicians weren't personally that likable, they felt an obligation to help the younger musicians." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-an-apprenticeship-system-in-jazz-you-143515/. Accessed 25 Feb. 2026.

