"There is nothing that war has ever achieved we could not better achieve without it"
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That single adverb does the most cultural work. It shifts the debate from moral purity to performance and cost. “Better” implies fewer deaths, less trauma, fewer downstream pathologies: the psychic wreckage that a psychologist, writing in a Europe obsessed with nationalism and militarized masculinity, would recognize as more than collateral. Ellis’s era fed on the idea that war forged character, purified nations, advanced technology, unified fractured publics. He replies: those are human capacities, not war’s magic. War doesn’t create them; it commandeers them, then sends the bill.
The subtext is also a critique of romantic militarism. War is treated as an engine of history because it is loud, legible, cinematic. Diplomacy, institution-building, and social reform are quieter and slower, so they get framed as “naive” even when they work. Ellis flips the prestige hierarchy: the truly “realistic” position is believing we can secure security, innovation, and solidarity without ritualized slaughter. It’s pacifism stripped of incense - a cold, modern refusal to let brutality masquerade as progress.
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Ellis, Havelock. (2026, January 15). There is nothing that war has ever achieved we could not better achieve without it. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-nothing-that-war-has-ever-achieved-we-54555/
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"There is nothing that war has ever achieved we could not better achieve without it." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-nothing-that-war-has-ever-achieved-we-54555/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.







