"There is pleasure when a sore is scratched, but to be without sores is more pleasurable still. Just so, there are pleasures in worldly desires, but to be without desires is more pleasurable still"
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The subtext is aimed at a common dodge in spiritual talk: the idea that because pleasures can be enjoyed, they must be endorsed. Nagarjuna grants the enjoyment, then pulls the rug out by asking what kind of life requires constant scratching. His target is not pleasure but the mechanism of attachment, the way wanting manufactures a problem it can temporarily solve. The scratch does not heal; it rehearses the cycle.
Context matters: Nagarjuna, the great architect of Madhyamaka Buddhism, writes in a world where Indian philosophy is crowded with systems promising stable essences - a self, objects, desires worth possessing. His emptiness teaching undercuts that stability. If things do not have fixed, independent nature, clinging to them is structurally anxious: you are trying to nail down what cannot hold still. The quote translates a sophisticated metaphysical critique into body-level common sense.
The intent, then, is pragmatic. It is a map of freedom that avoids puritanism: worldly desires do deliver pleasures. They are just the pleasures of an itch. The higher pleasure is not moral superiority but relief - the quiet competence of a mind that no longer needs irritation to feel alive.
Quote Details
| Topic | Wisdom |
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| Source | Verified source: The Precious Garland and The Song of the Four Mindfulnesses (Nagarjuna, 1975)ISBN: 006063541X
Evidence: There is pleasure when a sore is scratched, But to be without sores is more pleasurable still; There are pleasures in worldly desires, But to be without desires is more pleasurable still. (Verse 169 (page number not reliably extractable from the HTML scan)). This quote appears as Verse 169 in Nāgārjuna’s Precious Garland (Sanskrit: Rājaparikathā-ratnamālā; commonly called the Ratnāvalī / Precious Garland). A verifiable primary-source *published* appearance in English is Jeffrey Hopkins & Lati Rimpoche’s translation/editing in the 1975 Harper & Row volume (ISBN 0-06-063541-X). Note: Nāgārjuna’s original composition is ancient (c. 2nd–3rd century CE), but the earliest *publication/speaking* that can be verified for this exact English wording is this 1975 translation. The same verse is often paraphrased as “itch” instead of “sore,” but that is a later rewording/paraphrase rather than this exact phrasing. Other candidates (1) How to Practice Dharma (Lama Zopa Rinpoche, 2012) compilation96.2% ... There is pleasure when a sore is scratched , But to be without sores is more pleasurable still . Just so , there ... |
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Nagarjuna. "There is pleasure when a sore is scratched, but to be without sores is more pleasurable still. Just so, there are pleasures in worldly desires, but to be without desires is more pleasurable still." FixQuotes. March 2, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-pleasure-when-a-sore-is-scratched-but-to-7740/.
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"There is pleasure when a sore is scratched, but to be without sores is more pleasurable still. Just so, there are pleasures in worldly desires, but to be without desires is more pleasurable still." FixQuotes, 2 Mar. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/there-is-pleasure-when-a-sore-is-scratched-but-to-7740/. Accessed 5 Mar. 2026.










