"They were heading out to the middle of the bay - the Gulf - that's another thing that became kind of standard practice, we didn't hurry the destroyers around the beach any more, when it got dark, we'd take 'em out thirty or forty miles out in the middle of the Tonkin Gulf"
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The intent is almost studiously plain: explain a tactical change. But the subtext is institutional learning under pressure, the quiet evolution of risk management. "We didn't hurry the destroyers around the beach any more" reads like a sentence from a work memo, except the stakes are ships, men, and a coastline where the dark belongs to someone else. The decision to pull out "thirty or forty miles" is a confession that proximity was costing them - in damage, in uncertainty, in nerve.
Context matters: Tonkin isnt just geography; its a political fuse. After the Gulf of Tonkin incidents, the gulf became a rhetorical object in Washington, proof text for a widening war. Stockdale, a career naval officer who later disputed aspects of the incident narrative, speaks here from the operational layer where history is made out of routines. The quote works because it shows how the grand story gets built: not through speeches, but through small, repeatable adjustments that slowly redraw what "normal" means.
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Stockdale, James. (2026, January 15). They were heading out to the middle of the bay - the Gulf - that's another thing that became kind of standard practice, we didn't hurry the destroyers around the beach any more, when it got dark, we'd take 'em out thirty or forty miles out in the middle of the Tonkin Gulf. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/they-were-heading-out-to-the-middle-of-the-bay--163905/
Chicago Style
Stockdale, James. "They were heading out to the middle of the bay - the Gulf - that's another thing that became kind of standard practice, we didn't hurry the destroyers around the beach any more, when it got dark, we'd take 'em out thirty or forty miles out in the middle of the Tonkin Gulf." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/they-were-heading-out-to-the-middle-of-the-bay--163905/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"They were heading out to the middle of the bay - the Gulf - that's another thing that became kind of standard practice, we didn't hurry the destroyers around the beach any more, when it got dark, we'd take 'em out thirty or forty miles out in the middle of the Tonkin Gulf." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/they-were-heading-out-to-the-middle-of-the-bay--163905/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.


