"Thus, anybody who follows this nature and gives way its states will be led into quarrels and conflicts, and go against the conventions and rules of society, and will end up a criminal"
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The subtext is political. Writing in the late Warring States period, Xunzi watched states cannibalize each other while rival schools pitched competing cures. Against Mencius’s comforting claim that humans are innately good, Xunzi makes a darker bet: people are born with desires that collide, and collision produces violence. “Conventions and rules” aren’t bureaucratic annoyances; they’re civilization’s technology, the thin lattice keeping private wants from becoming public ruin.
Notice the rhetorical move: he frames transgression as a predictable outcome, not an exception. That’s strategic because it legitimizes institutions - ritual (li), law, education, hierarchy - as necessary engineering rather than arbitrary oppression. If nature tends toward conflict, then restraint becomes a collective achievement, not a personal vibe.
Read now, it’s a provocative rebuke to any politics of authenticity that treats impulse as truth. Xunzi’s edge is that he doesn’t trust spontaneity; he trusts cultivation, precisely because he’s seen what “natural” looks like when a society is under strain.
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Kuang, Xun. (2026, January 16). Thus, anybody who follows this nature and gives way its states will be led into quarrels and conflicts, and go against the conventions and rules of society, and will end up a criminal. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/thus-anybody-who-follows-this-nature-and-gives-137954/
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Kuang, Xun. "Thus, anybody who follows this nature and gives way its states will be led into quarrels and conflicts, and go against the conventions and rules of society, and will end up a criminal." FixQuotes. January 16, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/thus-anybody-who-follows-this-nature-and-gives-137954/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"Thus, anybody who follows this nature and gives way its states will be led into quarrels and conflicts, and go against the conventions and rules of society, and will end up a criminal." FixQuotes, 16 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/thus-anybody-who-follows-this-nature-and-gives-137954/. Accessed 9 Feb. 2026.









