"War contains so much folly, as well as wickedness, that much is to be hoped from the progress of reason"
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The kicker is the final clause, where he bets against the supposed timelessness of war: “much is to be hoped from the progress of reason.” That’s Enlightenment faith, but it’s also a political argument. Madison isn’t praising abstract rationality; he’s advocating for institutions that force reason into power - checks, deliberation, public scrutiny, and constraints on executive war-making. The subtext is that war’s “folly” is often manufactured by incentives: glory, consolidation of authority, and the distraction of crisis. Make government answerable, and you make war harder to sell.
Context matters: Madison watched European conflicts and the young American republic’s vulnerability to great-power entanglements. He understood that war accelerates debt, centralizes authority, and punishes civil liberties - a pattern he feared as much as foreign armies. The line is optimistic on purpose, but it’s not naive. “Hope” is the only safe verb when you’re talking about reason’s pace versus violence’s speed.
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| Topic | War |
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Madison, James. (2026, January 18). War contains so much folly, as well as wickedness, that much is to be hoped from the progress of reason. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/war-contains-so-much-folly-as-well-as-wickedness-23877/
Chicago Style
Madison, James. "War contains so much folly, as well as wickedness, that much is to be hoped from the progress of reason." FixQuotes. January 18, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/war-contains-so-much-folly-as-well-as-wickedness-23877/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"War contains so much folly, as well as wickedness, that much is to be hoped from the progress of reason." FixQuotes, 18 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/war-contains-so-much-folly-as-well-as-wickedness-23877/. Accessed 21 Feb. 2026.










