"We do not learn first what to talk about and then what to say about it"
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Quine’s line is a quiet grenade lobbed into the comforting idea that thought arrives neatly packaged: first you identify a topic, then you fill it with statements. He’s denying that “the subject” is ever a neutral, pre-given container. For Quine, what we take ourselves to be talking about is already shaped by the language and theory we bring to the scene. The map doesn’t merely label the territory; it helps decide what counts as territory in the first place.
The intent is polemical in that characteristically Quinean way: spare, almost offhand, but aimed at a long philosophical habit of splitting meaning into tidy layers. Against the picture where reference (what you’re talking about) is fixed first and description (what you say) comes second, Quine insists these are entangled. A term earns its “aboutness” from the role it plays in a whole web of sentences, practices, and inferences. You don’t discover the object and then attach language; you negotiate both at once, inside a system.
The subtext is a warning about how easily philosophers smuggle metaphysics in through grammar. If you treat nouns as automatic tickets to entities, you’ll start believing your language has already done the ontological work. Quine’s broader context - his skepticism about analytic/synthetic distinctions, his “web of belief,” his indeterminacy of translation - all pushes the same point: meaning is holistic, and certainty about “what we’re really talking about” is a luxury we invent after the fact. In a culture that worships “just semantics” as an exit from argument, Quine is saying semantics is where the argument begins.
The intent is polemical in that characteristically Quinean way: spare, almost offhand, but aimed at a long philosophical habit of splitting meaning into tidy layers. Against the picture where reference (what you’re talking about) is fixed first and description (what you say) comes second, Quine insists these are entangled. A term earns its “aboutness” from the role it plays in a whole web of sentences, practices, and inferences. You don’t discover the object and then attach language; you negotiate both at once, inside a system.
The subtext is a warning about how easily philosophers smuggle metaphysics in through grammar. If you treat nouns as automatic tickets to entities, you’ll start believing your language has already done the ontological work. Quine’s broader context - his skepticism about analytic/synthetic distinctions, his “web of belief,” his indeterminacy of translation - all pushes the same point: meaning is holistic, and certainty about “what we’re really talking about” is a luxury we invent after the fact. In a culture that worships “just semantics” as an exit from argument, Quine is saying semantics is where the argument begins.
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