"Well, I think Barkley and I were the only two who were working with Church for a Ph.D"
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The subtext is about how fields get built: not just by published theorems, but by who sat in the room while the ideas were still liquid. Church’s circle in the 1930s was where lambda calculus, effective calculability, and the prehistory of computer science were being hammered out. If Kleene and Barkley Rosser were the only Ph.D. students “working with Church” at that moment, the implication is that this wasn’t a bustling department trend; it was a small workshop, with two junior figures absorbing, testing, and helping stabilize a new language for logic.
Kleene’s understated phrasing also carries a wry awareness of academic mythology. Later generations talk about “Church’s students” as if they were a crowd; Kleene deflates that inflation. The intent feels archival and corrective: a reminder that big revolutions often start as two grad students and one advisor, arguing in narrow corridors before the rest of the world notices.
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