"We're not a vocational school. If someone wants to get a high-paying job, I would hope that there are easier ways to do it than working through a formal computer science curriculum"
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The specific intent is boundary-setting. He’s defending the university as a place for rigorous theory, disciplined thinking, and intellectual formation rather than a service counter for labor-market credentials. The subtext: students (and parents, and administrators) are increasingly treating higher ed as vocational training with nicer architecture. Greenspun is resisting that customer-service frame, insisting that CS isn’t synonymous with “coding for hire,” and that the deep work - algorithms, systems, proofs, abstraction - is valuable even when it doesn’t map neatly onto immediate employability.
Context matters: computer science has been repeatedly rebranded by industry booms as the most pragmatic major, a hedge against economic anxiety. Greenspun punctures that hype without denying the paycheck. He’s saying the money is a side effect, not the syllabus. There’s also a quiet critique of credential inflation: if the market truly rewards skill, there should be “easier ways” than surviving a formal curriculum. If the degree is the gate, then the gate is doing cultural work, not just educational work.
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Greenspun, Philip. (2026, January 15). We're not a vocational school. If someone wants to get a high-paying job, I would hope that there are easier ways to do it than working through a formal computer science curriculum. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/were-not-a-vocational-school-if-someone-wants-to-162176/
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Greenspun, Philip. "We're not a vocational school. If someone wants to get a high-paying job, I would hope that there are easier ways to do it than working through a formal computer science curriculum." FixQuotes. January 15, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/were-not-a-vocational-school-if-someone-wants-to-162176/.
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"We're not a vocational school. If someone wants to get a high-paying job, I would hope that there are easier ways to do it than working through a formal computer science curriculum." FixQuotes, 15 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/were-not-a-vocational-school-if-someone-wants-to-162176/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.





