"When I got started in New York, it wasn't like it is now. If you were different from Miles and Dizzy, it was very difficult to make gigs and make money with your own style"
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Hubbard is describing New York as a city that sells itself as a laboratory but often runs like a cartel: the closer you sound to the reigning template, the easier it is to eat. Miles Davis and Dizzy Gillespie aren’t just musicians in this memory; they’re shorthand for gatekeeping by aesthetic consensus. If your phrasing, tone, or harmonic choices didn’t signal allegiance to the dominant lineage, club owners and bandleaders could treat you like a financial risk, no matter how inventive you were. The point isn’t nostalgia. It’s a critique of how “innovation” becomes a brand that still demands conformity.
The subtext is personal and pointed. Hubbard came up in the early 60s, when hard bop was both a creative peak and a marketable product. The scene rewarded virtuosity, but only within recognizable borders. His line “make gigs and make money” does double duty: art talk is never just art talk in a musician’s city. Style isn’t only self-expression; it’s your livelihood, your rent, your leverage on the bandstand.
What makes the quote work is its refusal to romanticize the struggle. Hubbard doesn’t cast himself as a misunderstood genius; he frames the problem as structural. “It wasn’t like it is now” hints at a later moment of greater stylistic tolerance, but also at the irony that jazz, the music of breaking rules, can ossify quickly around new rules. New York becomes the paradox: the capital of originality with an unforgiving dress code.
The subtext is personal and pointed. Hubbard came up in the early 60s, when hard bop was both a creative peak and a marketable product. The scene rewarded virtuosity, but only within recognizable borders. His line “make gigs and make money” does double duty: art talk is never just art talk in a musician’s city. Style isn’t only self-expression; it’s your livelihood, your rent, your leverage on the bandstand.
What makes the quote work is its refusal to romanticize the struggle. Hubbard doesn’t cast himself as a misunderstood genius; he frames the problem as structural. “It wasn’t like it is now” hints at a later moment of greater stylistic tolerance, but also at the irony that jazz, the music of breaking rules, can ossify quickly around new rules. New York becomes the paradox: the capital of originality with an unforgiving dress code.
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| Topic | Music |
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