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Time & Perspective Quote by John Lyly

"Where the mind is past hope, the heart is past shame"

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Bleakness doesn’t arrive as a mood here; it arrives as a moral weather system. “Where the mind is past hope, the heart is past shame” is Lyly at his most elegant and cutting, making despair sound like a legal verdict. The line turns the psyche into a map with borders: once the mind crosses a threshold where hope is no longer credible, the heart follows into a separate jurisdiction where shame no longer binds. It’s not merely that hopelessness feels bad; it’s that hopelessness corrodes the social emotions that keep a person in relationship with others.

Lyly wrote in an Elizabethan culture obsessed with reputation, “credit,” and the choreography of honor. Shame wasn’t private embarrassment; it was a public technology, a way communities disciplined desire and ambition. The quote’s quiet threat is that when someone believes the future holds nothing, the usual incentives stop working. Promise, punishment, praise, disgrace: all lose leverage. The mind “past hope” isn’t just sad; it’s unreachable. That’s why the heart becomes “past shame” - not because it has grown brave, but because it has stopped caring about the price of being seen.

There’s also a sly, theatrical realism in Lyly’s phrasing. He doesn’t say the person becomes evil. He suggests something colder: the collapse of the inner audience. When no better ending seems possible, the performance of decency can feel pointless, and the line captures that slide with the crisp inevitability of a proverb.

Quote Details

TopicHope
SourceIn the text it appears as “where the mind is past hope the face is past shame”, in Euphues and His England.
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Lyly, John. (2026, January 17). Where the mind is past hope, the heart is past shame. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/where-the-mind-is-past-hope-the-heart-is-past-56596/

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Lyly, John. "Where the mind is past hope, the heart is past shame." FixQuotes. January 17, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/where-the-mind-is-past-hope-the-heart-is-past-56596/.

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"Where the mind is past hope, the heart is past shame." FixQuotes, 17 Jan. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/where-the-mind-is-past-hope-the-heart-is-past-56596/. Accessed 12 Feb. 2026.

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John Lyly

John Lyly (1554 AC - November 30, 1606) was a Writer from England.

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