"While the State exists there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there will be no State"
About this Quote
The intent is political engineering. Lenin isn’t describing an immediate policy so much as building a narrative of historical destiny: the State is a weapon of class rule, therefore any “neutral” State is a myth, and any temporary dictatorship can be framed as a necessary stage on the way to liberation. The subtext is the crucial pivot: if the State is inherently unfree, then the only legitimate State is one that abolishes itself. That’s a powerful alibi for concentrated power, because it depicts opponents not as dissenters but as obstacles to history.
Context matters. Lenin is writing in the Marxist tradition that treats the State as an instrument of domination destined to “wither away” after class antagonisms disappear. Coming out of autocracy, war, and collapse, the promise of a future without coercive institutions was emotionally and strategically useful: it sanctified rupture, demanded discipline, and turned sacrifice into investment.
The line’s brilliance is also its trap. It’s a utopian horizon that can always be postponed, while the present State, in Lenin’s hands, expands in the name of its own extinction.
Quote Details
| Topic | Freedom |
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| Source | Unverified source: The State and Revolution (Vladimir Lenin, 1917)
Evidence: So long as the state exists there is no freedom. When there is freedom, there will be no state. (Chapter 5, section "The Higher Phase of Communist Society"). This is the earliest primary-source match I can verify in Lenin’s own writing. The wording commonly circulated (“While the State exists…”) ... Other candidates (1) Vladimir Lenin (50minutes,, 2017) compilation95.0% ... Lenin hastened to implement decrees to establish a dictatorship as, according to him, “While the State exists, th... |
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APA Style (7th ed.)
Lenin, Vladimir. (2026, February 9). While the State exists there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there will be no State. FixQuotes. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/while-the-state-exists-there-can-be-no-freedom-83513/
Chicago Style
Lenin, Vladimir. "While the State exists there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there will be no State." FixQuotes. February 9, 2026. https://fixquotes.com/quotes/while-the-state-exists-there-can-be-no-freedom-83513/.
MLA Style (9th ed.)
"While the State exists there can be no freedom; when there is freedom there will be no State." FixQuotes, 9 Feb. 2026, https://fixquotes.com/quotes/while-the-state-exists-there-can-be-no-freedom-83513/. Accessed 10 Feb. 2026.










