"Without winners, there wouldn't even be any civilization"
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Woody Hayes isn’t just defending competition here; he’s trying to sanctify it. “Without winners” doesn’t mean “without effort” or “without excellence.” It means without a clear hierarchy, without someone crowned and someone else left staring at the scoreboard. In a coach’s mouth, “civilization” becomes a kind of moral megaphone: winning isn’t merely desirable, it’s the engine of order itself. That’s the move. He takes a locker-room value and inflates it into a theory of society.
The subtext is a rebuttal to softness. Hayes coached in an era when football sold itself as character training for a postwar America: disciplined men, clear rules, consequences. Calling winners a prerequisite for civilization suggests that cooperation, caretaking, or shared flourishing are secondary luxuries. What really holds the world together, in this worldview, is sorting: the production of elites, the validation of authority, the reassurance that merit (or at least dominance) can be measured.
It also reveals the cultural alchemy of sports in the mid-20th century. College football wasn’t just entertainment; it was a proxy for national vigor and institutional pride. Hayes’s line works because it flatters the audience’s stakes. If your Saturday obsession is civilization’s backbone, your shouting at the TV becomes civic participation.
There’s a darker edge, too. When “winners” are framed as necessary for civilization, the costs of winning start to look like acceptable collateral. That’s the ideology that makes rule-bending, brutality, and “whatever it takes” feel not only permissible, but righteous.
The subtext is a rebuttal to softness. Hayes coached in an era when football sold itself as character training for a postwar America: disciplined men, clear rules, consequences. Calling winners a prerequisite for civilization suggests that cooperation, caretaking, or shared flourishing are secondary luxuries. What really holds the world together, in this worldview, is sorting: the production of elites, the validation of authority, the reassurance that merit (or at least dominance) can be measured.
It also reveals the cultural alchemy of sports in the mid-20th century. College football wasn’t just entertainment; it was a proxy for national vigor and institutional pride. Hayes’s line works because it flatters the audience’s stakes. If your Saturday obsession is civilization’s backbone, your shouting at the TV becomes civic participation.
There’s a darker edge, too. When “winners” are framed as necessary for civilization, the costs of winning start to look like acceptable collateral. That’s the ideology that makes rule-bending, brutality, and “whatever it takes” feel not only permissible, but righteous.
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| Topic | Victory |
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