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Time & Perspective Quote by John Thorn

"Yes, we've seen it all before. And yes, those who do not study history are condemned to repeat it. But no, the sky is not falling - baseball is such a great game that neither the owners nor the players can kill it. After some necessary carnage, market forces will prevail"

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Thorn’s voice here is the antidote to sports-apocalypse theater: equal parts historian’s déjà vu and market realist’s shrug. The opening cadence - “Yes… And yes… But no…” - is a rhetorical stiff-arm to two familiar camps at once: the doomers who treat every labor dispute like a funeral, and the nostalgists who wield Santayana as if quotation were analysis. He grants the historical pattern (“we’ve seen it all before”) to establish credibility, then refuses the easy moral panic (“the sky is not falling”). That pivot is the engine of the quote.

The subtext is blunt: baseball’s periodic crises aren’t existential threats so much as ritualized bargaining, ugly but survivable. Calling it “necessary carnage” strips the romance off the conflict. Carnage is what happens when owners and players - both insulated, both calculating - test each other’s pain tolerance in public. Fans are the collateral damage, but also the proof of life: the sport’s cultural infrastructure is too deep, too habitual, too intergenerational to be “killed” by the people currently fighting over it.

Context matters: as a baseball historian, Thorn is speaking from a long view that includes the reserve clause, free agency, strikes, lockouts, and repeated predictions that the game has finally broken itself. His faith isn’t sentimental; it’s structural. “Market forces will prevail” is not a love letter to capitalism so much as a diagnosis: once the losses become real enough - empty seats, stalled TV money, reputational rot - incentives snap the combatants back into agreement. Baseball endures, he suggests, because it’s bigger than its stewards, and because greed, properly constrained by consequence, eventually makes peace.

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John Thorn (born April 17, 1947) is a Historian from USA.

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